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Posted by WeSurroundRochester on Dec 6, 2010
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What I think is fascinating is watching all the media and politicians try to "define" and co-op the tea party. The tea parties are an enigma to them.

The paradigm has shifted. We know that, so it is amusing to watch the show.

Some of think that the tea party is a political party. (although there is one guy running under a "Tea Party Party" in Nevada which has been denounced by all of the Nevadan tea parties ... which seems to be a left-wing ploy to split the vote so that Reid will get back into power...)

Now they think it came from Perot? That's funny.

Well, they are wasting their time and energy on this subject by looking through their progressive glasses trying to put labels on us. After all, they love stereotypes to exploit and they do LOVE labels!

Americans are diverse and the issues that the tea party folks care about are many. I would go out on a limb and say that ALL of the issues get down to one thing --- The Declaration of Independence and Our Constitution. The documents our Founding Fathers created is what unites and defines us.

So I say to the politicians and the media...

Pick up a copy of the constitution and read it.

In fact, they can read it for FREE online here:
U.S. Constitution Online

If they would actually take off their rose-colored progressive 3D spectacles and read our founding documents (instead of the DailyKos and the Huffington Post), they would get a glimpse from where the Tea Party springs forth from!

From Abigail in reply to the conversation HERE at We Surround Rochester.

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Posted by Wendy T. on Apr 1, 2010
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You've just gotta shake your head sometimes... how do we fight a system where they can dole out $3.4 BILLION for votes?? Either party, both have and both will again...

I think this fits in with Glenn talking about us being personally free of debt and able to handle anything, so that there will come a point where we can just elect the people who'll make the hard choices... the choices that'll financially kill anyone tied up with Federal this and that (Like I'm willing to vote for school cuts that would hurt the PR budget I'm paid under... bring it on).

Louise and company saying 'look at all the goodies I bring home to the district' has to be repulsive to enough voters, that the idea of earmarks and pork lose their power. I dunno. Seems a tough fight.

Here's my favorite part:

Pro-Life Democrats Who Switched Vote for Health Bill Request Billions in Earmarks
FOXNews.com
The 11 House Democrats led by Rep. Bart Stupak who dropped their opposition to health care reform mere hours before the final vote have requested $3.4 billion in earmarks -- and one watchdog group wants to know whether the money represents business as usual, or a political payoff.

Full Article HERE on FoxNews

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Posted by JohnAdams4NY on Mar 30, 2010

From WeSurroundRochester member Mike K, in a posting battle with a 'Coffee Party' Progressive that joined the group to 'ask us to not get violent' and to remind us that " Our initial form of government was communism. Please review the Mayflower Compact. This is where we really started and without this communal living we would not have survived."

BTW: The answer to that ill-informed view is here:  "Why the Pilgrims Abandoned Communism"

So Mike the conversation went on a bit, and Mike had this to say:


Its simple Alice.

  • You think that morals are a matter of law. We think that morals are a matter of life or death regardless of law.
  • You think that individual rights are granted to you FROM government. We think we grant government certain powers and reserve individual rights for ourselves. Not only that, you also believe that certain groups should have extra rights or afforded extra protection. We think that they are all already protected as individuals...we are then branded racists, homophobes, partisan wing nuts and bigots. We thank you for the third label by the way, but id change it to "principled wing nuts" in the interest of precision.
  • You think that property rights shouldn't exist. We do.
  • You think that being provided healthcare is a human right. We think its a privilege we earn through hard work, where we exchange the fruits of our labor for the service of a doctor.
  • You think that principles are a starting point for compromise. We think that principles are a point that you don't cross, PERIOD.
  • You think the wants of the many outweigh the rights of the few. 
  • You think that when we are attacked our first reaction should be foreign aid and/or UN sanctions to the aggressor. We think they should be declawed with tomahawk missiles and special forces teams.
  • You think that the constitution is a living document. We think its an unbreakable social contract with very specific meaning that should be followed or fought for, peaceful at first violent if, and only if, you run out of options and your individual rights went the way of the Dodo. (And they haven't yet, we have stated this for a very long time day in and day out, so stop implying we are violent and get to the next fake issue.)
  • You think man determines the climate based on political science. We think physical science needs to prove its case beyond a shadow of a doubt before we change fundamental and proper ways of living through law.
  • You think the family is community property. We think the community should mind their own business.
  • You think the government can solve all problems. We think that, more often than not, government IS the problem.
  • You and your Coffee party think that principles are open to subjective interpretation and are roadblocks to compromise to get what you want. We think that principles are a matter of natural law and relate to human nature and furthermore they are not burdens but guideposts in how we live our lives.
  • You and your party think that diversity and equality imposed by law are paramount over the content of a persons character. We don't, we think that a man should be judged by his deeds and his character, and laws don't stop others from making ignorant judgments on others but instead ostracize good and decent people breeding discord and inequality.
  • You think that no man should fail. We think that failure is one step in a determined and moral mans path to success. 
  • You think that corporations are ruining this country. We understand that without them we wouldn't be a country.
  • You think that defying a president now, after we tolerated one that did things just as stupid is a sign of our "racism". We often did yell and scream that he was doing wrong, but we thought we were alone. We don't anymore and the color of a mans skin won't stop me and everyone else from finally doing whats right, I will not apologize for my timing.
  • You think we should apologize to the rest of the world. We think the rest of the world should thank us for almost everything they have including the little freedom left to many of them.
  • You think that the product of a mans labor is a matter of proper and equal distibution. We think that the product of a mans labor is his to do with as he wishes, up to and including charity or 72" flat screen plasma televisions.
  • You think that schools ought to teach environmentalism, we think they should teach economics. You think they should teach social studies, we think they should teach civics. You think that schools should teach diversity, we think schools should teach history.
  • You think our country is a democracy. We Know that it is (unofficially "was") a constitutional republic with independent states guaranteed Republican forms of government, guaranteed. 
  • You obviously think that this country was created through coercion and social/economic engineering. We know that Capitalism (the only moral economic system) and individual initiative made this country the way it is, you should be happy, its allowed you and your kind to thrive as no other parasite has for many decades, the ride will soon be over though, the host can only take so much before it collapses. Nothing in nature is free, someone must pay in the end. 
  • You think that equality is best imposed through laws. We think that equality is best expressed through the protection of the individual, the smallest minority on earth.



We have principles, you want to eat your cake and have it too. We say A=A you say A=P+(XYZ - C). Your standard of value is need, ours is individual human life. Conclusion: There is no compromise, do not waste your breath.


PS. Before you say. "don't put words in my mouth". Don't join a political movement, it makes things to obvious for people like us.

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Posted by JohnAdams4NY on Mar 26, 2010


I know, things are looking kind of bleak right now for the Republic and liberty, but we still have a chance of overturning or repealing this awful, freedom stealing piece of legislation.
Attorney Generals from 12 States are filing suit challenging the Constitutionality of the bill. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) and Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC) are working together in an effort to get the bill repealed.
The most effective method though of turning back this Health Care “Reform” legislation and taking back our country lies with you and me, individual citizens. We have the power to vote out those who have subverted the Constitution and voted for the bill. Locally in the Greater Rochester area, Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY 28th) and Rep. Jim Maffei (D-NY 25th) both voted for the bill. We need to VOTE THEM OUT on November 2, 2010! We must make the best effort to mobilize the constituents in the NY 25th and NY 28th Congressional Districts to get out and campaign for the challengers of Slaughter’s and Maffei’s seats and defeat them!
Please come to the 2010 Tax Day Rochester Tea Party, not only to rally against the socialist power grab that’s occurring, but also to meet with other like minded patriots and start forming coalitions to defeat Slaughter and Maffei!
Remember in November!

Read more of this article HERE and see info on the Tea Party HERE at WeSurroundRochester.

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Posted by JohnAdams4NY on Mar 23, 2010

See each Representative as they are bought off for their votes here at CodeRed

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Posted by JohnAdams4NY on Mar 19, 2010